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Did MBAs Contribute to the Credit Crisis?

October 27th, 2008 @ 10:29 am

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As the financial crisis finger-pointing continues, eyes are turning to the business schools. What part did they play in the meltdown? And is now the time to re-think their own assumptions? As Simon Caulkin observes, it’s not just the economics-dominated MBA that’s now seen as unsustainable.

Business schools have become sausage machines — they all preach the same orthodoxies. Years later, greed and groupthink has come back to haunt us.

This is the first global crisis to have been created at leading business schools. Several of the meltdown’s major players, from Merrill Lynch’s Stan O’Neill to Hank Paulson to Andy Hornby of HBOS, are Harvard graduates. Dick Fuld, who ran Lehman Brothers, went to Columbia Business School (perhaps that’s why his bank wasn’t bailed out).

The bankers were advised by the brightest brains at McKinsey and other consulting companies, which are more or less outplacement firms for newly minted MBAs. The brilliant insight of these great brains led all the banks to the same failed strategies which is costing the world a few trillion dollars.

Contrast this with some of the richest entrepreneurs in the world — Mittal, Branson, Abramovich, Gates and Buffet are all MBA-free.

If you’re aiming to be an entrepreneur, an MBA cannot teach you any of the important lessons of success: leadership, the art of the hustle, personal bravery, resilience and risk taking. They cannot teach creativity, daring, inspiration and real insight. They can teach none of the things that matter to a successful entrepreneur.

Doubtless business schools are now writing case studies about the crisis in order to show how regulation failed, individual banks made poor choices and how economic conditions failed everyone. They’d do better to write a case study on how avoid creating a generation of corporate clones who are imprisoned by greed and orthodox thinking.

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    nikhilodeon10/30/08 Report as spam
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    "A generation of corporate clones who are imprisoned by greed and orthodox thinking"

    Wow, generalize much?

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    trevor_frew@...10/30/08 Report as spam
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    As one who completed an MBA, they fail to teach critical thought. They all use the same text books etc and when you question their assumptions, you are criticised. Group think is alive and well in our business schools

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    R&D-extern10/30/08 Report as spam
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    Good decisions under tough circumstances needs critical thought.
    But your carreer in many places needs group thinking and adaptation.
    What to choose?

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    RobHub10/30/08 Report as spam
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    I have currently completing my MBA and I completely agree that they fail to teach what true entrepreneurs need in order to be successful. I see time and time again, students coming to do their MBA's, most of them with majors in either finance or accounting, all with the hope to get top positions working for the top banks.

    Coming from a creative background myself, I daresay that most of them do not understand what the word creativity means, fail to come up with strategic solutions, and are generally so caught up in the mathematics of it all that they would not know where to start to build a successful business.

    However, then again, MBA's were never really supposed to teach entrepreneurship in the first place. There are certain entrepreneurship degrees out there for this. The problem is that not many people know about them. The economy just cannot sustain having that many graduates all wanting to own their own companies. I guess that generally contributes to why the rich stay rich and adversely the poor stay poor.

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    tramky10/30/08 Report as spam
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    People do what they're told. The Nazis were correct, they were following orders. If the top guys at a company have bad ideas and are unethical in their thinking, the ship is as good as sunk. Unfortunately it's nearly impossible to determine this until the water is already on the wrong side of the hull.

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    vraymond10/30/08 Report as spam
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    This article is clearly an oversimplification of a phenomenon that is the result of a much more complex social and ethical dilemma. Statistically no real correlation exists between success and MBA/non-MBA status. I do believe that MBAs are overvalued in the marketplace; especially Ivy League schools. They do provide membership to a very exclusive club. The vast majority of MBA programs practice uncritical groupthink that lends itself to trendiness and conformity. These grads are merely the hacks that designed the products. The real problem this time round was the abandonment and underfunding of any regulatory supervision that could act to contain the greed.
    ProfR

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    chemera200210/30/08 Report as spam
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    MBA's cannot create what is not there...
    if you are not creative going in, do not expect to be Picasso walking out.

    Critical thinking? There are some classes and some teachers who do not encourage this... and plenty who do. I personally left my MBA (Columbia) with a great deal more scepticism about the world of i-banking and Wall Street than I had going in.

    Buffett? He does have a masters degree from Columbia Business School... and credits Prof. Benjamin Graham for initiating him in the arts of value investing. If ever there was an example of both teacher and student who went to pains to avoid running with the pack it must be Graham and Buffett. Business schools lost there way in the 70s and 80s with advent of modern finance theory, but several leading schools (Columbia among them) discovered a distaste for contrivances and go to pains to point out the flaws in this model.

    The MBAs listed above doubtless were victims of 'efficient market theory' and CAPM. Perhaps the author should have researched current teachings at Harvard, Columbia and other elite schools before writing our epitaphs with such a broad brush?

    Is it possible the author has been swept away with the ex-post facto groupthink that will throw the baby out with bath water as a result of the credit crisis?

    If the author has been making predictions of doom seeded in the doctrines taught in MBA programs for the last several years, then his opinion counts for something. More likely this is a case of Monday morning quarterbacking, and we can count him among the swelling ranks of experts after the fact.

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    fkotsiaris10/30/08 Report as spam
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    I'm about to complete a Master of
    Entrepreneurship and Innovation (MEI), which
    runs parallel to the MBA in the Australian
    Graduate School of Entrepreneurship
    (Swinburne). Describing the MEI to colleagues
    I say that it's like the MBA but where that
    course proceeds down the compliance path, the
    MEI turns left and goes down the innovation
    path. We also like to say that MEI's employ
    MBAs. Maybe not anymore...

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    skainz10/30/08 Report as spam
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    Wow, that's a mighty generalization and really a bit of a logical jump. I am one of those Yvy League MBAs and one thing that I learned was to think independently and critically about business issues. The school I went to was based on the Socrates method and textbooks were seldom seen. So, critical thinking was all that we deed, questioning business assumptions, solutions across all fields of business, not just covering the hard core fields of business (operations, finance etc.), but definitely the 'softer side' (leadership). Sorry, I do not blame the MBAs for this crisis, but leadership and greed, whether you have an MBA or not, doesn't matter.

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    jacompass10/30/08 Report as spam
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    What's the value from MBA? Things to learn? or friends to make?

    To me, to be able to think independently is definitely not something listed as the goals of the program.

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    brandonpmoore10/30/08 Report as spam
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    When I started my MBA I was asked by a business leader "Why an MBA?” and my answer was simple... I wanted to know what happens to the thought process at that level. What I found was that it slowly moves you from looking at the big picture and long term growth through stability, and community involvement, growth both skill and knowledge wise of your people, to micro managing every corner of the business by the minute. MBA's have no real solid base of knowledge in the true building blocks of a great business, that is, what it takes to make it a truly great company and not simply a money mill. It is your customers, your people and your ability to keep them that creates a great business and not six sigma, and every other management game that comes down the pike, I found that leadership and people skills were completely removed from the equation in the MBA program and you become simply a numbers juggler. They lose the leadership abilities to make truly sound business decisions. It is simply a numbers game to the MBA nothing more.

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    basacharya@...10/30/08 Report as spam
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    MBAs as such are robust in creativity and execution. It flows steadily with the vagers of the environment and available for experimentation. Taking the acquistion of the degree for the key, to perfection to do as one thinks is the ultimate cancer of the after effects of these MBAs. Planning for those unlikely was either overlooked or not visualised.Working with only physical entity would always not stand the test of times as emotional and human perceptions should be given more emphasis.This is where the Alpha's & Bheta's play their dominant roles.

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    DrFeelAwesome10/30/08 Report as spam
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    MBA's have a bad rep, for good reason. No need to rewrite what a dozen others have said. But I consider myself lucky to have had an academic advisor in the UT system that sat me down, said that an MBA was a dead end, and talked me into getting an MS instead. And wow, I actually use my 3 degrees now!
    Didn't Michael Criton talk about MBA's being worthless in...Disclosure? I think that's the book, and he once again is proved to be a great author who hit the nail on the head.

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    DrFeelAwesome10/30/08 Report as spam
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    MBA's have a bad rep, for good reason. No need to rewrite what a dozen others have said. But I consider myself lucky to have had an academic advisor in the UT system that sat me down, said that an MBA was a dead end, and talked me into getting an MS instead. And wow, I actually use my 3 degrees now!
    Didn't Michael Criton talk about MBA's being worthless in...Disclosure? I think that's the book, and he once again is proved to be a great author who hit the nail on the head.
    Let's keep hoping that future students get MBA's - less competition for those of us that got a usable degree.

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    akkadja10/31/08 Report as spam
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    Recently, MBA becomes a required degree to make high income in a short time! This is why we see selfish people with no ethics in top positions. The problem is not in the degree itself but in people. I recommend that MBA schools, beside the GMAT, conduct an exam of ethics and moral and prepare some sort of a "smart" survey to be filled by 2 referees to find out who is the person trying to get its MBA degree. Schools reputations are critical issues from this moment. My boss is an MIT MBA guy. He is a real A*h*.

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    antti.kapanen@...10/31/08 Report as spam
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    "Doubtless business schools are now writing case studies about the crisis in order to show how regulation failed, individual banks made poor choices and how economic conditions failed everyone."

    Yes, these guys are so good in explaining things in retrospect. The method:
    1. Of the whole mess of things, pick up the isolated facts that suit your needs
    2. Decorate with MBA buzzwords, making up a couple of new ones to ensure no-one is actually sure what you are talking about
    3. Collectively decide you were right, as always! If only these 6,5 billion idiots that inhabit the earth would do THEIR part right...

    And the best: in the system of reward but no penalty, only success becomes track record!

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    Paul Hollins10/31/08 Report as spam
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    What incredibly pious comments. Whilst MBA's are
    undoubtedly practitioner focussed as with any course of
    post-graduate study they should (and I am careful with
    my choice of words) and their primary purpose is in developing critical thinking skills. These are the skills
    that if exercised effectively may, indeed would, have
    helped avoid the current financial crisis.

    One word summarizes the real reason GREED!

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    sosila10/31/08 Report as spam
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    I do not think that one reason can be enough to explain the economic crisis the world is facing today - this is a complex issue. What is important though is how flexible, creative and open-minded business graduates are to the realities facing them on a day to day. Failure to respond to the organisation and external changes have been the reason for the down fall of many companies.

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    Mazengo10/31/08 Report as spam
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    Yer after going thruogh some of the comments, it just reminds me the true nature of human beings. They have always worked to to find scape goats every time arised a problem! The current crisis facing the financial market have absolutely nothing to do with MBAs.Greedy, loss of obedience against moral ethics is what contributes much to what we're seeing! I'll be soon graduating my MBA at the Open University of Tanzania with thumbs high as I have earned something that is so much valuable. I have all the confidence on creativity and innovation, things that in the past I could not even dream. Please should the world blame the rigth victims and not throwing stones to MBAs !

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    rpanne10/31/08 Report as spam
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    Ironically, financial fallout refugees are flocking to the B-schools; wait 20 - 30 years, bring the popcorn and watch another crisis unfold.

    Tom of Tom's of Maine took time off his career to get a Master's of Divinity at seminary. The business stuff, you can get anywhere. Critical thinking, ethics, idea creation, empathy...maybe a different path is required.

    Worth thinking about.

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    nelson_vanelderen@...10/31/08 Report as spam
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    Correlation does not mean Causation. Maybe we could make generalizations based on additional facts...political beliefs, religion, right handedness, etc.

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    rvastar10/31/08 Report as spam
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    This is the first global crisis to have been created at leading business schools.

    This is pure bunk. This crisis was CREATED - meaning, it started - in 1995 with the Clinton administration revising the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977.

    Doubtless business schools are now writing case studies about the crisis in order to show how regulation failed...

    Yeah, except that they're going to try to pin the blame on regulatory reforms like the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 instead of the real culprits: 1) the 1995 regulatory revisions to the CRA that created the secondary market for mortgage loans and 2) the use of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as the underwriters for this Ponzi scheme.

    These revisions to the CRA allowed institutions other than banks to start making SUBPRIME mortgage loans. Also, they allowed these lenders to forgo traditional mortgage risk mitigation measures (i.e. savings deposits), and instead, to bundle them into securities (i.e. MORTGAGE-BACKED SECURITIES) that could be sold on the open market.

    In short, w/o these revisions to the CRA, NONE of what has recently occurred in the financial markets would be happening.

    Several of the meltdown’s major players, from Merrill Lynch’s Stan O’Neill to Hank Paulson to Andy Hornby of HBOS, are Harvard graduates.

    You forgot to name another Harvard graduate who's up to his neck in this mess. The driving force behind the 1995 revisions to the CRA was ACORN. Who was the lawyer that represented ACORN in this effort? Barack Obama.

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    Lmbchp10/31/08 Report as spam
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    rvastar

    nice!

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    sofab110/31/08 Report as spam
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    The issue is not creativity -- no creativity was required to see that the chain from sub-prime creation validation by agencies and mathematical packaging was so shot full of holes as to be a complete farce.

    The problem is that keeping your nose to the grindstone results in a kick up the behind. Regulators in particular seem to be excessively diligent in small spaces and never look up.

    MBAs want to get ahead & are likely to do the job as defined -- what are the rewards from being a stirrer?

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    mbrianlars@...10/31/08 Report as spam
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    yeah -- from the misguided legislation driven by political correctedness, to fannie Mae & freddie mac, to a general push for decades worth of regulatory burdens that are nearly impossible to abide by and that create a mushroom field of moral hazards...those mba's really should be taken to task for all that.

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    mmello10/31/08 Report as spam
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    Dismalling comments...

    Maybe it's not a B-schools problem after all.

    Maybe it's the zeitgeist.

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    blackchinee10/31/08 Report as spam
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    dick fuld did not go to columbia. he's a stern grad

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    macsam12311/01/08 Report as spam
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    So much about MBAs, now give us the options. Which qualications could have offered bettr direction and avoided this crisis and why do you say so? I still feel MBA is worth pursuing.

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    tessnyc11/01/08 Report as spam
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    Can anyone explain what the "vague" expression of "orthodox thinking" is all about?

    I got my MBA after being professional for a long time, expecting an extraordinary boost in my career, mindset etc. I found more theories than work practices, and concluded: Any curious mind and avid reader of good stuff could be as efficient as an MBA. The best "university" for me is experience! Period.
    Best,
    Tess C.
    New York

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    Frank Ngoka11/03/08 Report as spam
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    Mba has not been the
    main cause of the crisis rather misapplication of the ethics guiding financial management by those found at the helm of affairs in the heights of the mortgaged industry in the the finanacial hub of the world. The singular quakes in the industry craeted an unimaginable ripple in the financial world and therefore cannot be hinged to Mba holders. I hold an MBA from LASU Lagos Nigeria - that has made me innovative solution provider in most functional areas of business. Thanks for the Mba from this institution.

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    william.harris@...11/04/08 Report as spam
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    RE: Did MBAs Contribute to the Credit Crisis?

    A lot of these responses are obviously written by people that don't have an MBA and seem to be holding some form of Grudge.

    Check out the course contents of the MBA before preaching. Many of the problems of the credit crunch would possibly have been avoided by paying attention in class.

    A strategy module would likely have advised the use of Scenario planning - seemingly missing from the credit crunch.

    Financial strategy would have talked about risk, again something that seems to have been ignored in the last ten years.

    My MBA had a Creativity Innovation and Change Module, which was possibly the most useful course at the Open University, who obviously feel that they can teach creativity (the techniques at least).

    The credit crunch was caused by greed, by irresponsible lending, by an infalted house market and by the majority of people living beyond their means.

    Blaming the MBA course is quite frankly ridiculous.
    Offering NINJA mortgages to achieve quarterly targets, and running to keep up with the crowd probably had more to do with it.

    I agree that the MBA is often a required mangement badge, but occasionally they do impart some quite useful knowledge.

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    mannysecret11/04/08 Report as spam
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    It's amusing to see this finger-pointing attack article breeding other finger-pointing comments. However as an MBA colleague, I propose that the global financial mess is a result of the moral confusion of our society, body, mind and soul. From birth we're just a number, controlled grade school education. Fit in, answer test questions one way and get a passing grade. Being different is not allowed. Too energetic or creative, you're lucky help is on the way, get a free pill, I'll make you fit in. Conform or else. If you're lucky you get to play some more, just buy into an MBA membership. Connect with the top bully … jackpot.

    The "dumbing" of human beings have been going on since the beginning to time. We're just more sophisticated today with all the different tools at our disposal. Think about, who out there has not yet been manipulated, cheated or ripped off? As a true entrepreneur, I see many opportunities here today to do what is right.

    Heisenberg (German Physicist) said that "an expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be made on his subject and manages to avoid them." I suppose we're not all experts yet. I propose start complusory training in grade school, "How not to get ripped off." I wish there was a class on this when I was in grade school. Or maybe I just missed the MBA class of "cooking the books." Here's a thought, where were all the financial auditors during this time? Wow!!! Don't know if anybody's blamed them yet in the posts.

    Another rip off, identity theft, children just born with new SSN are being ripped off before they can even talk. With all our education and "MBA" training, we never saw it coming, billion dollar financial buyout. No it’s a billion dollar rip-off, to our children not even born! CEOs are laughing all the way to the bank, supposedly even had bail-out parties. They'll never live that one down. Oh, forgot the stock market, it safe! But that's another post for later.

    So, in reality, think about it, is there really only a single point source for all this financial mess? We all need to realize that every decision we make affects every single human being and ecosystem on this planet. We are all at a cross-road. Good luck to us all human beings. We need to envision our best future, that's our next step. Let's move on.

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    gaurav.goopta@...11/14/08 Report as spam
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    This story is funny - the writer is comparing apples and oranges.

    Strategic consulting, banking sector and entrepreneurship fit in the same category. Why are you comparing entrepreneurs with MBA's and then blaming MBA fro financial crisis?

    Do you think that Virgin, Arcelor-Mittal don't take advice from McKinsey?

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    JDoSPS11/14/08 Report as spam
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    This is a good nut-cracker for bringing back the truth, that getting a degree does not insure that the academics will blaze new trails.

    Teaching on the reasons that Gates, Buffet and many others have succeeded can only be taught through a look backwards at what they did, but it cannot tell you how they were able to look forward.

    I don't know what the demographics are now (haven't looked for it for a while), but when the last time I looked, there was an estimate of who were the most successful, and who were the dropouts at the top. It was basically somewhere around 80% of the top 2% of the wealth were high school drop outs.

    What does this mean? It simply means that academics is a good template for practices, but if they aren't tapping into (and teaching) creative applications to break the molds, then all you get is people churned out that are good at following the template of defined rules. Define by who? The schools?

    In short, creativity, intuitiveness, courage, and instinct are keys that are usually missing from the curriculum, for the lessons are typically within the rules, and not reaching outside of them.

    And this is coming from a high school dropout. Perhaps defended bias? Academics would say so, but if the professors and instructors weren't themselves "biased", then perhaps they would be at the top too.

    There is a reason why there are classes, and reasons why there are careers. To follow the templates, and that is it.

    You can't create a better box, until you figure out how to get outside of the one you are in right now.

    Just my observations.

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