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Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

October 16th, 2008 @ 11:18 am

Categories: Management, Motivation, Strategy, Talent Management, Workplace

Tags: Employee, U.K., Employee Engagement, Engagement/disengagement, Recruitment & Selection, Human Resources, Workforce Management, Robin Stuart-Kotze

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Employee engagement is a comparatively new term, but the concept is old. We used to call it commitment or involvement.

Even without research, common sense dictates that if you’re keen, committed and involved — and these attitudes are supported, respected, encouraged and rewarded — you’re likely to do a better job.

The words “supported, respected, encouraged and rewarded” are what’s important here.

There’s evidence to suggest the level of people’s engagement declines with their length of service in an organisation. They start off keen and try to perform at their best. But if they receive no support, or get disrespect, zero encouragement or acknowledgement, praise or reward, they learn that being “engaged” is a mug’s game.

Gallup estimates it costs the US economy about $300bn a year and that 17 per cent of employees are “actively” disengaged. These employees each cost their employers $13,000 a year in lost productivity. You can quibble about whether these figures are a precise reflection of the situation, but even if they are discounted by 50 per cent the effects are devastating — and the situation is just not acceptable.

Engagement/disengagement is quite clearly not just a phenomenon in commercial organisations. On one of its websites, the UK civil service reports that

  • 12 per cent of UK public sector workers are highly engaged; 22 per cent are disengaged
  • 84 per cent of highly engaged public sector workers in the UK believe they can have an impact on the quality of the organisation’s work — compared to about one-quarter of disengaged workers.
  • Engaged employees in the UK take an average of 2.69 sick days per year; the disengaged take 6.19 sick days per year.
  • Engaged employees generate 43 per cent more revenue than disengaged ones.
  • Engaged employees are 87 per cent less likely to leave the organisation than the disengaged.

Clearly, failing to support, encourage, respect and reward people carries an enormous cost. Sometimes this failure is a sin of omission but depressingly often it is a sin of commission.

Many managers consciously treat people disrespectfully, belittle their accomplishments and make every effort to “keep them in their place”.

We know what most people want: they want to feel valued. They want their contribution to be recognized. One of the consequences of not feeling valued or not being recognized is that people withdraw and do less and less.

This has a major impact on an organization, lowering morale and productivity, draining resources, and blocking performance. It is also infectious — negative behaviour has a multiplier effect on the behaviour of others.

Here are some signs that someone’s disengaged at work

  • Try to avoid being held solely responsible for things.
  • Avoid firm time commitments for getting things done.
  • Keep a low profile on issues.
  • Distance themselves from others’ failures.
  • Avoid sharing information with others.
  • Cut themselves off from people at times.

People don’t behave like this for no reason — it’s a reaction to the way their jobs are structured and, more importantly, the way they are being managed.

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    selfishy_me@...

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    Check, check, and check. Time to move.

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    pcole3

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    So true. Wish I could forward this on to my manager. I'm leaving my job because I am neither supported, respected, encouraged nor rewarded. Very disappointed because I consider myself to be a very commited loyal employee!

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    williamsbn

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    This is a very timely and apt article. I would love to engage in some ideas as to best or next practice in maitaining employee engagement.
    Additionally there is always the conflict about whose responsbility it is to keep/maintain this engagement, some are of the view that it has to do with Communication so the Marketing and Communications team must lead whilst some views indicate that Human Resource should own this. What say you?

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    Dave W.

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    This article gives no useful information at all - just blames managers and employers for an unproductive workforce and offers no suggestions on how to positively encourage and motivate. Whatever.

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    southernskies

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    Who does the superb illustration for the "Sterling Performance" banner at the top of this article?

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    lorenzo102758

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    It is all about how an employee is managed. It's about feeling relevant, connected and valued as a worker and a human being. The norm is that employees are viewed as just a cog in system. Amazing that many times a consultant's opinions are valued more highly than a performer who has contributed to significant increases in valuation.

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    scarlettsmommy

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    I am also disengaged. Poor prospects of ever changing my income while working for someone else.

    So, I am staying here while I make my plans on opening my own business when I can break away.

    Taking my knowledge, passion, experience, research & resources to a higher level. EAT MY DUST!

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    eronge

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    so does it mena that about sevbnty per cent fo africas work force is disengaged? Is it leadership, the nevironment or just food?
    concerned african

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    eronge

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    so does this mean that about seventy per cent of africa's work force is disengaged? Is it leadership, the environment or just food?
    concerned african

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    mcgilvray-m

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    Very interesting and I concur. As both a manager and an employee I can see this from both sides. Not, mind you, that it should *ever* be ignored. These principles are what move mountains.

    Tattooed on the eyelids of every manager should be "support, respect, encourage, reward"...

    One last thing: this is not just a management function. It must emanate from all, throughout the organization.

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    rambler78

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    "People don???t behave like this for no reason ??? it???s a reaction to the way their jobs are structured and, more importantly, the way they are being managed."

    Err I still think that I can't shirk the responsibility of my own attitude, nor should anyone else.

    It's not all about the way I'm managed, it is in part about the way I choose to react.

    I face insurmountable problems, scratch that I face problems that I cannot solve in a reasonable timeline. I have tried alternative approaches, and failed.

    I still have options. Three obvious options I see are:

    1 Continue to care and value my contribution.
    This means I must face all my failures, and care about each one, I don't want this. I have tried to change my manager but at the end of the day he is not suited to this aspect of his role. For any out there who are havign trouble with an ill fitting managerial relationship search "managing up".

    2 Care less.
    This really is so so easy.

    3 Leave the situation to find a better one.
    Although this is probably the hardest it is probably the most honourable option and best for both myself and the company in my case. I have had two nigh identical annual reviews where my manager cannot see problems and wants me to keep quiet so that on paper he looks like he has happy staff.

    Apathy is the glove into which evil slips it's hand. Don't waste your life in a job that won't satisfy you. Change your situation.

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    andrew.trnacek@...

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    Whoses responsible?
    Every manager is responsible. This problem does not belong to coms and marketing or HR but resides with every person responible for managing teams.The other teams can help with designing and communicating programs but success requires the active participation of managers in the business.

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    PeggyLBruck@...

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    While lack of appreciation is a part of it, I do believe that there are other contributors.
    1. The work itself - does it prompt thought and ingenuity? Is the problem at hand challenging?
    2. Other people involved in the project - their attitudes and their ability to support your effort. If you are surrounded with negativity day after day for an extended period of time, you can adapt the same thoughts unless you fight it.

    I myself experienced this a few years ago after being asked as a consultant to sit and work on nothing for a period of time and make it look good. At that point, I just wanted to leave this career permanently.

    And then suddenly I was facing unemployment (not surprising since the work was really not there). I really had lost my passion for what I have enjoyed doing for 20 years.

    I was fortunate to start another job that made me realize that passion is the key to caring. The people I met on this job helped restore my passion for doing what I love.

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    Brendon.c

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    I believe that we need to step it up. People don't want to be managed they want to be led by a someone who is congruent with the messages they communicate and the actions they take. Leadership is not about having the answers it's about trust and engaging your team to work on solutions together and the leader facilitates this. People rarely object to their own ideas.

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    mwinterburn

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    While intuitively I agree with the overall concept, the statistical evidence is weak. If there is evidence that shows engagement declines over time, this is not the same thing as showing that positive management improves engagement over time as I suspect that even under the best circumstances, an engagement study will show a decline over time. There are so many variables in this, I find it very difficult to believe that you can battle time with a pat on the shoulder.

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    bgbiz

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    History shows that business used to value long term employees that sacrificed personal achievement for the greater company good. Generations bought into this as recognition and rewards followed good and above average performance provided the company was succeeding. Just before the dot.com era and particularly after it failed and the economy nosedived, business swiftly jetisoned seasoned personnel, and did a brain drain by eliminating knowledge and experience. Left behind were new unprepared managers to "step up" that did not get the training or experience and they failed miserably. Management then challenges employees by aaking what value do you bring to the position (ignoring the value already determined when hired initially), with challenges to employees to re-apply for their positions held for years, they now break the bond of trust between management and employees. No longer valued, but depicted negatively as "treehuggers" if they stayed for any length of time on the job. Outsiders then hired at greater salaries without as much useful experience to lead people that have been intentionally provoked. It takes less than a year or two to break down the high achievers that give their personal best regardless of how bad they are treated. Growing and promoting from within is no longer a priority and everybody understands if you want to move ahead or up - you have to move on. So now we no longer have a younger generation that wants to commit long term yet management continues to expect commitment without providing anything in return. Employees saw how their older co-workers were terminated due to the economy, or whatever reason given and released simply to cut cost mostly due to the failed strategies of management. It used to be the longer you worked successfully the greater the pay and opportunity. Now the older expensive generation just costs too much and became vulnerable. Knowing the above, mamagement sees the decline in commitment, yet they continue their failed choices and expect a different employee response. At their very core they do not know how to run a business. So why should employees care? Most do but unless they feel employer commitment to their mutual success employees know they won't be there long, one way or the other. I have enjoyed working with hundreds of employees that give their personal best all day every day. The job may not be their passion but it funds their passion. They are there whenever I need them because I have been there for them - good times and bad. There is no substitute for this and that's why my folks care.

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    ahartman80

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    Not valued? How about being actively belittled?

    My department and manager want a scapegoat. Nothing like somehow becoming responsible for any mistake, problem or issue - no matter how much others were/could be responsible or how common the "practice" is.

    Definitely poor management - past actively disengaged to actively not caring if I'm costing the company money. Out on medical leave for several months (totally legitimate medical problem although stress may have contributed to it) but I do not feel the slightest bit guilty about it (abnormal for me).

    Actively watching for any "mistake" the company makes and notifying the proper agency. It is amazing how much a company breaks regulations when you are watching for them.

    Any good manager knows disgruntled employees are less productive but the best managers know that those people can be very expensive also. All because someone didn't use simple little rules learned in kindergarten - treat others with respect, be honest, be responsible and play nice.

    Hopefully I never been anywhere near this bad as manager. Leaving is not always possible no bad how the situation is.

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    James.Hoover@...

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    A pat on the shoulder will go a long way, especially if Management has not been actively involved with the work force. A pat on the shoulder, a sincere smile and "Job well done", will carry you further than you can imagine. Try those little tricks for a year on all your workforce, when appropriate, and see how things change for the better. IF management continues to put down and show disrespect for the workforce, it will come back in spades, especially when you need the workforce to support you and your ideas for change or whatever, and Murphys Law says that it will come back at the time that you least need it. Like in front of the CEO or Director and you are trying to get their buy in of the idea.
    The concepts as presented in the article are valid as I have seen it with my own eyes and that is why I am no longer working for the organization, I was never treated with respect, never had my ideas seriously evaluated,always felt that I was just another unimportant cog in the big wheel of the organization, yes, had these concepts been utilized, with out a doubt I would still be working, NOT retired.

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    Maverick8

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    Unfortunately there is a lack of alignment for tying management compensation directly to objective feedback on the leaders' management/leadership skills. Until there is an appropriate link, we can continue to expect employees to disengage. Results do matter, but the cost on people is high especially when you have a self-centered boss who's only interested in getting himself promoted and where HIS blind boss does so because he is happy with the results which make him look good to HIS boss.

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    kfreymuth

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    I am a manager. I strive to do these things, but I would concur that a little training would have been nice. I wasn't even told about the appropriate HR forms to fill out to acknowledge good and poor behaviors! Managing might seem intuitive, but it's not. There are different kinds of employees -- those who respond to the pat on the back and those that just want cash.
    In between their annual reviews, however, I've found that anytime I can employees how they've contributed directly to attaining goals, they seem to respond with greater enthusiasm. They want to know they aren't making an extra effort for nothing.

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    jpettigrew80

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    I have found managers may feel they are being supportive, showing respect, encouraging and being rewarding employees but are failing. With managers their efforts percieved as condescending due to saying one thing to an employee and then inappropriately discussing the opposite to another employee. I think this stems from managers being inconsistent and being inappropriate at times to other employees. I guess the relationship between employees and managers can often be complicated but I think the idea is sound and is the basis of good management

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    victorrajavel@...

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    whatever..........

    Employee engagement....motivation? Experts nowadays are just coining new terms to an age old problem making them look like.....wow!

    For once, try putting in a process which eliminates such problem. Instead of presenting them in a flashy new package and creating a new consulting oppurtunity. Good article but not really helpful...it just makes people feel more self pity on theselves. It is like discovering the new disease you have, surely, you would not feel flattered.

    But if you start giving remedies to this age old disease, I am sure, people would know how to avoid it or cure it!

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    barcodeguy

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    bgbiz - Thank you. Great insight. I have always worked under the premise that the company paid me to do a particular job, and that I would do it to the absolute best of my ability. If I felt there were problems, I would address them with the appropriate people. If they could not be resolved, it was best to just move on.

    I just left a company, along with our entire outside sales force and sales manager, because we were all being essentially treated like children. We were all seasoned sales people in our industry. All acheiving high levels of success with previous employers. We had been downsized out of positions by company consolidations and our respective company's desire to replace us with less expensive untrained staff, internet marketing, and CRM tools. We, the entire sales force, had a great deal of respect for each other, and our immediate boss. But, as a team we were unable to get the company's executive management to take a serious look at problems. We agreed to "hang in there" together to support each other, but also agreed that if there apperaed to be no resolution in sight, we would all leave together. It finally happened. When you have a company that treats their customers poorly, expects commissioned sales people to clock in and out, (even though we were not a retail business), read their emails, monitor their phone calls, expect you to lie to your customers, and make you fight for money that you have earned, it's time to leave.

    The VP sent me an email wanting to conduct an exit interview over the phone. A co-worker who had also quit, suggested that I tell him to just refer to the many others who had gone before, because the issues had not changed. And the company's response to those issues was unlikely to change as well. I've been at a couple of companies over the course of my career where the line has been, "if the front door was a revolving door, they could cool the building with it." bgbiz, by the way if you're hiring, I'm looking. You appear to be the kind of manager that someone with intelligence and ethics, would be happy to knock themselves out for.

    Only very early in my career did I have a boss like that. As part of a five person regional sales team for a national hundred-year-old company, I had a boss who actually appreciated his people. When annual quotas were handed down to him, I was always the last to get mine. He did this because he knew I would not whine, and he always had to give me the largest quota to make up for the cuts he had to make as concessions to other staff members. That was ok. I told him I would do my best to try to hit whatever number he set, and if it looked like I was having trouble, I'd be back to discuss it with him.
    I actually enjoyed going to work. I long for that feeling again.

    I believe the treatment of employees has continued to get worse. Employees are viewed as a necessary evil, and an expense. Although I know a great many salespeople in a variety of industries, I have only found one whose company actually changed their compensation plan to where they made more money. I once had a former boss admit to me that bonus reviews were designed to be subjective, and he as a co-owner of the company, had been directed by the other owners to make sure that even the top performers "just missed" the benchmark point to receive a bonus. The company never had any intention of paying any bonuses, but they wanted us to think that there was a possibility if we worked hard.

    Many years ago a former college roommate of mine commented to me when we both entered the working world, about how appathetic many of the older people at companies he called on appeared to be. After we have been working for many years, we have both commented that now we understand. My boss from my first position is retired now, and we are still friends. When he hears about some of my experiences with the "Managerial" talent of today, he is amazed.

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    jimfitzgerald1charter.net

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    Attn: "eronge"
    Indeed, it is leadership. Government frequently is the biggest killer of productivity. That is why the U.S.S.R. failed. Also, why China was forced to relax restrictions on business ownership.

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    Viejita

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    I work in the public sector (local government) and I'd have to say that the biggest cause for employee disengagement is the absolute sure knowledge that performance will not result in advancement. Promotions are given out strictly according to seniority, who you are related to, and (for women) who you have slept with.

    It is beyond discouraging to see mid-level managers with graduate degrees passed over in favor of a bigwig's brother-in-law or latest girlfriend -- almost always someone with a high school education.

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    and.park@...

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    it is so true that some employees get disengaged over time, especially when they start to think that they've learned overall work done in the firm.
    I think it is important to keep employees challenged at work, while providing the right amount of benefit/reward for their performance.

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    kimidh

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Your article is universally true, I left the organization I worked for precisely for the same
    reason. You worked hard, but others who know how to sweet-talk the boss get the promotion.

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    Rambo_pang43200

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    Try ask yourself as an employee that is working.

    You may become 1 of this.

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    Hugh Flouch

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    Conversation in the Killer

    Ci did a reserach study amongst a group of leading global companies which found that 40% of employees feel there is a conversation they would like to have with their manager but feel unable to. Those employees are much less engaged and three times more likely to be considering leaving the company.

    Download a summary copy of the research at no cost at http://tinyurl.com/63jlv5.

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    ktjohan57

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    As someone who has viewed the workforce from several different levels of management, I can tell you that your core concept is correct. It should also be noted that the lower levels of management can only give a limited amount of support to even the best employees if they are not being actively supported by those who are higher in rank.
    I once hired an extremely intelligent young man who knew more about the field I was working in than I did; and I was honest with him about it. I told him I hired him so that I could "Pick his brain", and learn more myself. Knowing that I respected him, his performance, dedication, and personal engagement were unsurpassed. MY supervisors were suspicious of the young man because of his intellect, and they let us both know this at every possible encounter. Every problem that arose was vocally attributed to this person, EVEN AFTER it was proven that the source of the problem was somewhere else. I could not shield this exemplary worker from this constant scrutiny, and he left; taking his vast knowledge and problem solving capabilities with him. What a waste!

    In some organizations, employees (and lower management) learn that "no good turn goes un-punished". Why would anyone take risks, even if they know the company could benefit significantly, when they know that even actions that improve the companies overall profitability can get them fired?

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    lnantais

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Wow - here, as in the workplace, I see a lot of comments thrown to the wind about what's wrong with a situation - how about concrete solutions?

    Being a middle manager, I see both sides of the coin and have moments of feeling the discouragement that comes with this territory. However, it's important to take a breath, shake off the unproductive negativity and focus on what actions one can take to improve the situation.

    Even when you bend over backwards to ensure your employees are given the respect, encouragement, support and rewards that they deserve, there is a percentage of the population that will never be satisfied.

    How about some discussion about some simple and novel ways managers can avoid this problem?

    Some things I incorporate:

    Simple praise - pat on the back whenever I see someone taking initiative, going the extra mile - I make sure that they are praised, thanked and noticed.

    Gift certificates - I keep a stash of gift certificates on hand that can be handed out for noteable achievements or efforts or even the occasional - hey, I see/hear you are having a rough week, why don't you leave early today and take your family out for a nice, relaxing dinner.

    Tools - it's a small investment to ensure they have things like large monitors or the latest technology to make doing their job easier.

    Encouragement - I take random walks around the office to spot individual efforts for making changes to improve things like efficiency and reward them on the spot for their ingenuity.

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    ccronauer

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    For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Sound familiar? Most people are takers and no givers. The law of averages say that you will receive back 10 times what you give. This does not mean you should "expect" something back for everything you do. Look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are truly a giver with no strings. This axiom applies to both sides of the fence: employer and employee.
    Are you a giver?

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    lancechristie

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    There are 3 key things we can do as managers to increase employee involvement. These are principles I learned in the Marine Corps and was taught during my MBA studies.

    The employees need to feel a personal relationship with management. That is not to say you need to become drinking buddies but know the employees spouses and children's names. Know them as a person as well as an employee. Having engagement on a personal level builds trust.

    Secondly, employees need to feel they have standing in the organization, that their input in not only encouraged but valued. People feel empowered when given the opportunity to solve a problem or asked about their opinion. They need to feel they matter to the organization and they can make a difference.

    Lastly, employees need to be given the tools to do the task at hand. Nothing will de-motivate people faster than giving them a task but not enabling them with the tools to be successful.

    These three things will increase intrinsic and extrinsic motivation which will increase organizational loyalty.

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    Jessigirl1223

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    I think that if you can't forward this on to your boss that it is your own fault, not your boss'. employees manage bosses as much as bosses manage employees. If you don't tell them what you need, it's your own neglect. If you have told them and nothing's been done then, it's time to move on.

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    cookevilledj

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    BOOO WHOOO-

    Suck it up and leave or have PRIDE and be a star performer no matter the situation. A true champion will not let a "boss" bring them down.

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    drahn@...

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    Misleading link to article

    The BNET report for October 16th included the following blurb to link to this article:

    "Here's a breakdown of why employees disengage and how to fix the problem."

    This article clearly defined the problem but did not provide the "how to fix the porblem" as described or render suggested approaches.

    This is the first time I have been dissapointed with the content of a BNET article.

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    jenyj89

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    I've worked almost 24 years for the Federal govt in one capacity or another...and worked very hard to get to the position I am now in...where I am considered somewhat of an "expert" in my field. Unfortunately I am only considered an "expert" by people at my HQ, other bases, and outside agencies. The management within the organization I work for on my base is so "inbred" and stifled that I haven't received an Annual Performance Award in 5-6 years. No recognition at my own base for my hard work, my outstanding program or extra projects that I've been asked to take on in addition to my regular job. Have I stopped caring? You bet I have because I see how upper management has abused their power and created an atmosphere of discontent and helplessness amongst most employees. The majority LOVE our jobs, DO our jobs to the best of our ability, DON'T want to go look for another job, WANT to stay right where we are but pray for better management. With 24 years invested...I want to stay...I love my job...I think I do it well but a little management support would go a LONG WAY!!

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    Jeff316

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    People don't want to be managed they want to be led by a someone who is congruent with the messages they communicate and the actions they take. Leadership is not about having the answers it's about trust and engaging your team to work on solutions together.

    Very profound and very accurate... Hats off to you Brendon.c

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    btsims

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Read the book: Zapp! The lightening of Empowerment and it will give you a path (should you choose to take it) to a more involved, empowered and motivated workforce. Give your people something to be engaged in...besides working for a paycheck.

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    CONSTRUCT

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    Maybe some of these people should move on?

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    juliaharris

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    As a manager and as a person I like to live by one motto "Treat others the same way you like to be treated" (???supported, respected, encouraged and rewarded???).

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    ramkrish

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    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    So...what is this article trying to say?

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    Lynn110

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I agree with the premise of the article within
    the framework of the large company workplace
    which seems to be the context of most of this
    thread. However, I happen own a small
    contracting business in a community of under
    80,000 people.

    Most potential hires have low expectations and
    attitudes that are already broken by poor home
    life and public school environment before they
    enter the workforce. Our local labor pool is
    not filled with experienced achievers.

    We have had to train our workforce from the
    ground up. So, we hire for attitude first. Our
    most difficult position to fill is middle
    management.

    Management is PRESUMED to have a selfish and
    evil agenda. This seems to be what young
    people believe about capitalism before they
    even enter the working world. Any comment?

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    jaywalker1

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    Involvement leads to Engagement

    The article articulates many of the impacts of disengagement but offers no real insight into resolving it. The reality is that the vast majority employees are hobbled with archaic, hugely inefficient business processes autocratically operated inside silos - how can they get excited about that!!
    The business maturity model espoused by ISO 9004 would put them as Level 1 or 2 on the 5-level scale. Traditional thinking would bring a team from one of the big-named consulting firms to clean up the processes and then leave. That doesn't work because there is no feeling of ownership when they leave. A far-superior and transformational method is to get a specialist coaching/training firm to teach process owners, users, suppliers and customer how to capture and then re-engineer each of their processes as a team. First step is to capture the as-is process and standardize how it is performed and measured. (Level 3 maturity). From there the business maps developed become the platform from which to launch process improvements (e.g. Lean, six-sigma, value stream analysis etc. ) as now prioritized by meaningful performance data. This is the most rapid route to the preferred Level 4+ maturity where predictability has fully replaced the reactive fire-fighting that???s endemic in Levels 1 and 2.

    Empowering each process team to take full ownership of their process ('teaching them to fish') achieves the dual aim of transforming both performance and employee-engagement (culture). Of course, mid-level manager attitudes need to change accordingly and their silos disappear.

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    DerekIrvine

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Two questions come up repeatedly in these comments -- What to do? and Who is responsible?

    What to do? Say "thank you!" It really is that simple. Tying manager goals (MBOs/KPIs) to regular recognition targets will help to change habits as well.

    Who is responsible for recognition? Not just the managers! ALL employees should be empowered to not only thank their peers, superiors and subordinates, but to do so in an easy to use system that tracks those recognitions and communicates them to all constituents.

    Who is responsible for engagement? Both the company leadership and the employees themselves. All play a role in their own and their colleagues' engagement levels.

    I blog extensively specifically this topic if you want more clear direction on tips, tricks and management direction. http://globoforce.blogspot.com/

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    rhgale

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Another relevant book is by Patrick Lencioni...Three Signs of a Miserable Job. Yes, there are probably more, but his three are insightful and include many of the comments already mentioned.
    The first is anonymity. If your manager (and by their actions, the company) doesn't care about you, doesn't know you, (and really know you..your family, your interests, etc.), you are destined to be miserable.
    The second is Irrelevance. If you don't understand why your company exists, how you and your company are improving your customers lives, and your contribution, you will most likely be miserable. Understand how you and your work are relevant, even if it is simply that you understand how you are helping your team, your manager, or a work group. The third is Immeasureability. If you are not measuring your success, you need to. An example from the book is as simple as a pizza take out delivery person counting the number of times he makes a customer smile when delivering a pizza. It's up to you and your manager to agree upon and set your goals. And your manager to care. If you're not a manager yet, be learning all of the lessons from your current miserable job. When you become a manager, remember all of the lessons and be the change you want to see in the world (Ghandi...one of my favorite quotes).
    In this case, the goal is to improve the quality of life...at work. If you can do that, you have created a competitive advantage that no competitor can copy.
    People want to be a part of something greater than themselves, and to make a difference (in their lives...and that includes work). The companies (and managers) that understand this are and will be the leaders of the future.

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    enviro

    10/17/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    These points are deadly accurate. I have a high salaried job executive position with excellent evaluations from my CEO and Board. It is also the least creative that I have even been in my adult life, contrary to the expections I had based on promises at hiring. The CEO is a micromanager who fosters this kind of atmosphere that has led to the departure of two other senior executives. What happened to them, and now to me, is that we reduce our 150% committment to 120% while spending the other 30% planning to jump ship. The CEO, having been one for 30 years, does not seen the need to change. Very sad.

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    peterahunter

    10/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I am amazed at the number of people for whom this article reasonates, but not entirely surprised that there are no managers who have responded.
    Or are there?
    We always assume that the behavioural problems come from above us and therefore have to be endured in order to continue getting our wages, and we never tell the perpetrator of this bad behaviour about their behaviour because they are our boss and can influence our promotion, our reports and therefore our wages.

    Think carefully, how many people report to you who never tell you that your behaviour is bad, because they might fear what you will do if they tell the truth.

    Peter A Hunter
    www.breakingthemould.co.uk

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    Kjarr

    10/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    We are returning to Victorian attitudes, where by, managers believe they have the knowledge and therefore the power, they have no interest in employee welfare only the money employees generate. These poor delusional managers are, 9 times out of 10, incompetant paper shufflers who hide behind managerial buzz words and corporate ties.....don't be fooled by them. Either copy this report and discuss it with your management or move on. Treat others as you wish to be treated yourself and remember.....the higher the monkey climbs the tree, the more you see the a*se.

    Scott

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    bsnsimo

    10/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I am not amazed at the number of people with whom this article resonates. I see and hear it all the time.

    For anyone interested in how to manage people correctly, take a look at these articles.
    http://www.bensimonton.com/articles.html

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    guestlinks@...

    10/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

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    guestlinks@...

    10/18/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Is Training Worth It?

    "It's easy to get good players. Gettin' 'em to play together, that's the hard part."
    --Casey Stengel

    You???ve probably heard the following quote before, although you might not have thought about it too much:

    Employer: I don???t want to send my staff on training courses. They might leave and get a better job

    Guestlinks??? Trainer: But if you don???t train them, they might stay.

    So you could be left with a bouquet of Absentees, Marginals and Troublemakers who need training but can???t find another job because they???re not good enough. And you???ll get so fed up of them you???ll want to leave your own company.

    On the other hand, you could take a risk, offer this Skills Development training and benefit from better staff until they do eventually leave??? but research has shown that trained staff tends to be more loyal to their employers. They might even be so grateful for the boost to their morale, new skills and chance to apply what they???ve learnt that they stick around for a while and earn every peso you pay them.

    Other company uses the training expenses as a right reason of terminating these problem employees if they don???t improve. Both avenues they win.

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    Jeffreyfrankel

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I have rewritten this article so that it has a positive and more realistic slant:

    Do your employees care about the business?

    Are your employees committed or involved.
    Clearly, if you support, encourage, respect and reward people they will be more committed and involved.

    People want to feel valued. They want their contribution to be recognized. One of the consequences of feeling valued or being recognized is that people get involved in the work and do more.

    This has a major impact on an organization, increasing morale and productivity, using resources effectively, efficiently, and economically. Performance soars. It is also infectious ??? positive behaviour has a multiplier effect on the behaviour of others.

    Here are some signs that someone???s involved at work
    ???accepts being held solely responsible for things.
    ???makes firm time commitments for getting things done.
    ???expresses opinions on issues.
    ???shares failures.
    ???shares information with others.
    ???talks to people as and when necessary.

    People don???t behave like this for no reason ??? it???s a reaction to the way their jobs are structured and, more importantly, the way they are being managed

    Jeffrey Frankel

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    mktgpharma

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    It seems all the companies and managers "know" that what you say in your article is 100% right,... but nobody follow these logical principles.
    Today, you are going to be measured by some "X" parameters/ratios/targets. If you do not get your objectives you will be fired, so you focus on them and everything else does not matter at all.
    If this is the mentality (situation) of the management of the company, what do you think th attitude of the "workers" will be?

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    amani.hamdan@...

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I gave up.. i think i have to leave ... even if I will be ???supported, respected, encouraged and rewarded??? in my job.

    may be i will remian if i feel i ???support, respect, encourage and reward??? my exisence at my current job.

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    maehorizon

    10/20/08 | Reported as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I thoroughly enjoyed reading the article and everyone's comments.

    When I started my job I was excited because I was in a new position and new sector so I had alot of challenges because I would be learning.

    Our department is small and I got along with everyone for the first two years and then I became disengaged.

    The person I report to became increasingly negative and condescending. Promises were made and not followed through. I asked for some new things to learn and never received what I asked for. When the manager wants something the manager wants it now, but when I ask for something I have to wait as if what I am asking for or doing is not as important. Twice I asked for feedback and all I get is emails blaming me for things I did not do. One day I am told one thing the next day is another.

    When it came time for pay raise it was meager. I am underpaid, the manager is condesending and negative, no one keeps there promises why should I stay?

    I continue to do my work to the best of my ability and meanwhile look for another job and starting my own company. I am too talented, a hardworker and passionate.

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    JannaRaye

    10/20/08 | Report as spam

    Disengagement is a systemic issue

    Top-down hierarchies create the illusion that there's
    only so much room at the top. As "managers" claw
    their way up, each new level represents a conquest
    that must be guarded and maintained. Little energy
    remains for supporting and nurturing staff, who can
    actually appear as threats to their positions if the staff
    person has better ideas than the manager.

    Leaders, on the other hand, are unafraid of their
    subordinates ideas and contributions. We need leaders,
    not managers!

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    miyaya

    10/21/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I think most of the ppl will feel bored when do the same thing for the longer time.

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    KayCole923

    10/22/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Why is saying thank you so hard to do? Two of the most simple words are so hard to say... We are all responsible - managers/employees, it goes both ways! I've seen excessive demands by management that was well exceeded by employees and there was absolutely no thanks given for the above and beyond required performance. Likewise, those "perpetual disengaged employees" - I have since learned that there is little or nothing that you can do to "Re-engage" - they may have lots of knowledge, but it's been my experience that they are usually the ones leading the negative campaign against both the other employees and management!

    The golden rule is how I live by - treat others the way you expect to be treated... How easy - yets seems to be so hard!

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    mskatymay

    10/26/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I definitely relate to the public sector comments above. I have just left government after 22 years, since any reasonable rewards and satisfaction with the current management were not going to happen.

    I also believe much "old boy/old girl" behavior is from fear on the part of managers. They are there for each other and promote those who are their "friends" because these are then folks who won't reveal their inadequacies.

    It is also very true that "mediocrity always attacks excellence."

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    percychow

    10/28/08 | Report as spam

    Ha ha ha - What do you guys expect from the UK?

    1. They get out of high school at 16.
    2. University and College Education isn't encouraged in the society.
    3. The workforce gets burned out faster.

    No wonder these poor kids party and look like they are 100 years old by the time they are 21.

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    KIM12

    10/29/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    What can you do to assist an employee who is already disengaged?

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    RitaO

    10/31/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    I think that in one way or in another people are looking for happiness, they want to do things that make them feel happy.Pitiful are those who think that they can find happiness through money.
    But the questions that arise are: Do people feel happiness by working in a firm? ?Does it depend on their position? Is it my dream and/or yours to work in a company? is this the true sense of life?
    I think that people are creating a "sad world" to live in, a world where our dreams are unrealizable, to be more accurate, a world where our dreams depend on money that's why most of the people are sad.
    But if our world is not the one I and/or you want, what would be the alternative?

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    robcatalano

    11/05/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    From a previous Gallup Poll, over 80% of respondents identified Recognition (the highest of all factors) contrinuted to employee engagement.
    I currently work for a company (I Love Rewards) that provides rewards and recognition solutions and seeing the impact of recognition is amazing. The interesting thing is that recognition is FREE!
    Don't think of it being a cost to motivate employees, it is definitely an investment.

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    BNETcomment

    11/14/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    when the boss hires his best friend that wants to make everyone else look bad?

    When your co worker wont pick up the phone and or return customers calls... You get blamed.

    when your quota is increased every month so they dont have to pay you a commission

    when you allow one employee to dominate meetings with trivia and off subject conversation and then allow that person to put down others that have offered real input?

    Usually the same individual who wants to sabotage you?

    when the commission program is changed frequently - or learn they wont offer that again because you exceeded goals and they really didnt want to pay big commissions.

    when you promote a beginner because he/she is friends with the chairman? And his/her only way to manage is to micro manage, threaten to fire everyone and criticize.

    When you see a bad employee behaving badly but because they are a minority or female you are reluctant to do anything?

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    SamAdams1234

    11/16/08 | Report as spam

    RE: Whatever... Why Employees Stop Caring About Work

    Let me know how you encourage and pat on the back when an employee has missed deadlines, upset a customer, and will not provide the effort needed to correct the situation. And refuse to use the extra resources available.

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